National Security vs. Civil Liberties Forum

Kelly McDonald

Kelly McDonald

by Kelly McDonald -
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I completely disagree with the Patriot Act. The Patriot act allows the government to have so much power and control over not only non US citizens, but also US citizens. Nobody is safe. It allows the government to wire tap into our telecommunication, and also puts them in a position to constantly track what we're doing. Yes, it can help weed out terrorists, but at the expense of our privacy. What's worse? The government refuses to tell us whether or not they are doing this. I can understand if they are strictly doing this for the discovery of terrorists, but with as much information as they are getting from US citizens, this power could easily be put in the wrong hands.

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by Jason Veliu -
To the government we are just a number. They do not care about anything we do.
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by Kelly McDonald -
Obviously they do care if they are this concerned? I know that our safty is important, but giving this much power to them is ridiculous.
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by Jason Veliu -
How would America look if we kept getting attacked successfully.? Government buildings were takin out during 9/11. Maybe they are worried about their own safety also.
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by Kelly McDonald -
So tap all US communications? Is that the only solution?
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by Jason Veliu -

Yes. Pretty much insures our safety.

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by Kelly McDonald -

Okay, so say this stops all acts of non-us terrorism. Then we have in state terrorists to worry about, so how would the government prevent that?

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by Jason Veliu -

You said it yourself, all U.S. communications are tapped. There

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by Kelly McDonald -
No big. But are you okay with that? I'm not. I don't want every aspect of my life being constantly under inspection.
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by Jason Veliu -

No i think the whole school knows that im involved in things that are illigal at times. But the gov doesn't care if wer buying a bag of weed, if the goal is to catch a terrorist.

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by Kelly McDonald -

Maybe I'm contradicting myself here, but I do acknowledge this will help with terrorism. I just truly disagree with how invasive it is. I don't want the government knowing every aspect of my life.  

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by Jason Veliu -

Your right, noone wants to feel like the gov is watching them at all times. Its jus like a parent doing something to protect their kid but by invading their privacy.  But if its working then the gov will continue untill someone finds a way to get around it, and then the next security measures will be worse.

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by Jessica Conley -
I think you just contradicted your self. You say it's taking away too much of our privacy but what about where you agreed it can help with terrorism. They could already do all these things already now they're just telling us they're actually doing it.
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by Kelly McDonald -

It's more of a rebuttle than anything. A lot of things can help with terrorism, we could kill everybody in the world and that would certainly help terrorism, but that's just an extreme.

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by Britney Olds -

9/11 may not have happened but we dont know that.

I agree with what Kellie said, the government has too much power and can use it for other thing besides finding terrorist, which is not what it was intended for. Us as citizen have the right to have atleast known this was going to happen. I understand its all about security but if other people are being able to tap into systems, some peoples personal accounts and such could be messed with.

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by Michael Demmons -
I agree there is too much information being obtained by the government to be keeping U.S citizens in the dark.
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by Kelly McDonald -

Right, because we truly are in the dark.

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by Shannon Allen -
That's what bothers me about the things the government is doing. They should have been a little more open about it, less shady, in my opinion. I think a lot of people don't like feeling like the government is keeping things from them. But I also think certain things they're doing are necessary but they should be more open about it. They want to invade our lives to an extent, we should be able to know what they're doing also.
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by Damien Sanchez -
Well if your not doing anything stupid yourself you shouldn't have to worry about it and i guarantee the terrorists know what we are doing and they will try and neglect the effect it has on them but we are safe nowand as long as this program exists in our hands it should be fine.
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by Forrest Jayson -
I agree that what the government is doing is shady, and not entirely legal. But it's only going to effect you if you let it. There's more important things to focus on than what the government could be doing with our information. We live in a beautiful country, and it hasn't been attacked since the Patriot Act was passed. I hope it stays that way.
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by Timothy Castiglione -
if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to be worried abput simple as that so i think its fine just as long as the gov hold up the end of it
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by Heather Hill -
I agree with Damien and Tim. I understand that its an ivasion of privacy, dont think for a second that that part is not justifiable. But the thing is if you have nothing to hide, if your not planning any act of terror on this country, which im not saying you are,then why should it matter? If  you arent doing anything illegal then you wont draw attention to yourself and you can go on just living your life. This act was implied to protect most citizens, would you rather be protected by the government and have a bureau that will investigate any suspicions or have nothing in effect to protect you and lose a family member to a mass genocide?
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by Kimberly Royek -
I'd sacrifice my privacy for my safety. People are quick to blame the government when things go wrong, so when they try to do everything for our safety, it's still wrong. They should be doing everything they can to protect us citizens. They're looking for suspicion. I see it as, if you have nothing to hide, why worry?
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by Ryan Badgley -
well i strongly beleive that we need protection. they dont care if your doing drugs or stuff like that they are protecting you from a terrorist that wants to blow you up and your family
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by Amy Puroll -
Thank you Kelly I completely agree. This is just another step towards Big Brother from George Orwells 1984. Are we really safer? our privacy is no longer safe
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by Zachary Rhode -
yes were are safer. We give up a little privacy and with that were protected from terrorist attacks because by doing what their doing the government can find out about a terrorist plot and foil it before it happens.
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by Ashley Cates -

Yes, we are physically safer. But, our private information isn't. I don't want some government official going over all of my text messages to see if I'm engaging in terrorist activity. I don't have anything to hide, but seriously, I wouldn't even let my best friend go through my texts unless I wanted to show her something. It's my conversations, not someone else's.

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by Amy Puroll -

Can you arrest some one of thinking about doing something, even if they haven't commeted a crime yet... What would you want to keep safe? your life, your way of living you life? What if you are very intrested in explosives and want to be an explosives expert as a career, you have it as a passion, you look it up daily and learn all you can. The goverment see's your searchs and now believes you are a terrorist. They have to stop you before you blow up the world

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by Shannon Allen -
Wow, that's actually an interesting point about Orwells book. There are definitely similarities there.
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by Amy Puroll -
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by Heather Hill -
but you know the thing is if they feel you are suspicious they will investigate. If you are looking to be an explosive expert and they investigate you looking up explosives and you explain your instrest in being an explosive expert than they will see you as no threat. And about the being put in jail for thinking comment- the thing is if someone is thinking about something to that magnitude then it needs to be out to an end, if you stop something before it even starts then it ensures more safety for citizens. I feel that everyone is thinking that every person is monitored  when in fact its people that draw attention to themselves and pose a threat to the security of the country.